Edited: ABidAway.com

Update: ABidAway.com has e-mailed to tell us that the users that had email addresses @abidaway.com were created by them but were people locally and they set up the accounts for them, and apparently their e-mail addresses too for promo bids…He wanted to clear that up, so you can read his response here: (And bid on any site you want to, as always)

“Will Klein to me

show details 2:54 PM (3 minutes ago)
That’s your whole thing? 3 users that we created for promotion locally? Suredly the other 45 or so are shills? Cmon really? Bad name over that? Not sitting well with me

Sent from my iPhone”


Yes it is the whole thing, over 3 company made users, we just don’t tolerate shill bidding at all here

His explanation: “They were for a promo. I can cancel them and have the users themselves sign up. They were handed out on a card this morning to 3 people who work locally. I can cancel them but they will make new accounts. It was a promo plain and simple.
Will”

Just a few days ago when I found AbidAway.com and placed the two free bids that are given to users when they signup, it became apparent to me that they were employing bot bidders, it has been known that the PHPPennyauction.com script (that this site is using) currently offers the bot bidder function in their script.

After I found that bots were bidding on the auctions I sent the owner this message:

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:18 PM, I  wrote:

Thats fine I will not be purchasing bids though, it’s clear you have bots. Why do you use bots? You know this is shill bidding, right?

On Mon 01/02/10 10:19 PM , William Klein abidaway@gmail.com sent:

Hello

Sorry you feel that way, but we do not have bots

We have real users, and real winners

Sorry you feel that though

Abidaway Team

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, <I> wrote:

Sorry I feel that way?

Lying and crime does not pay.


From: William Klein <abidaway@gmail.com> Sent: Mon 01/02/10 11:51 PM

To:   me
Priority: Normal

Subject: Re: Hello, RE: Bid Issue Type: Embeded HTML/Text


I want to apologize. After your email I contacted my developer and we didn’t switch the settings. I didn’t realize it myself, since i only saw a few auctions go for less than 20 cents.

We only had one order and it has been refunded.

The site is on pause until we can fix the problem, load the correct items and pages.

I left brief note in the news section which can be found on the homepage.

All free bids will also be credited by this time

Please accept my apology.If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

We look forward to being a fun penny auction

Abidaway Team

Now today I am pretty sure that ABidAway.com has been shill bidding, not with bots but by manual bids. I have what I think to be definitive evidence that at least 3 users: fasteddy, foundwaldo and powerking are shill bidders by ABidAway.com.

I think this is pretty shameful, especially after taking into consideration this e-mail I receieved from ABidAway.com:

“Hello
I follow your site and have gaines a lot of knowledge from your topics
My partners and I have been working on our site for a while now, and now that we are almost ready to launch I wanted to contact you.

I think bid bots are unethical and want to let you know I do not intend to use them. We are going to start small, very small and have funding to get past the first few months of losses from low auction prices.

I want to know if you have any suggestions that would help my site and it’s reputation.

Although I want to keep privacy intact, I would like to tell you now, before we launch, that I want your input and intend to be as transparent as possible.

Personally I have no enemies and have an excellent reputation, and this is my goal for the website as well.

I will not ever use bots to increase bids and increase auction amounts. I am not sure how to  “prove” this, but if you have any input I would love to hear it. I hope to hear back from you and hope I we can find a way that I can prove to my intentions. I look forward to a successful website and hope to one day have a great review on your website
Will”

“Will Klein to me
show details 2:54 PM (3 minutes ago)
That’s your whole thing? 3 users that we created for promotion locally? Suredly the other 45 or so are shills? Cmon really? Bad name over that? Not sitting well with me

Sent from my iPhone”

… 
Yes it is the whole thing, over 3 company made users, we just don’t tolerate shill bidding at all here

His explanation: “They were for a promo. I can cancel them and have the users themselves sign up. They were handed out on a card this morning to 3 people who work locally. I can cancel them but they will make new accounts. It was a promo plain and simple.
Will”

I am very ashamed of this penny auction site and apologize to all PAW readers for having promoted their free bid promotion  ABidAway.com was given a second chance by me and they cannot say I did not warn them.

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