Comments on: Shill Bidding Serious Offense Abroad

By: 4BiddinBidsLive.com Penny Auction Review

4BiddinBidsLive.com Penny Auction Review — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:50:07 +0000

[...] As many of our readers know, we do not take lightly to findings of shill bidding and it is of our opinion that shill bidding has been occurring on 4Biddinbidslive.com. Remember, shill bidding is fraudulent. [...]

By: EasytoWinAuctions.com Caught Shill Bidding

EasytoWinAuctions.com Caught Shill Bidding — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:51:27 +0000

[...] our recent post about Shill Bidding Being a Serious Offense Abroad? Some individuals have even gone to jail for it. What do you think should happen here, when [...]

By: auctionwatcher

auctionwatcher — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:29:41 +0000

Yes, you're correct. He did tell me that and I should have studied the law further. Your comment was left unapproved because I had edited out the FBI as you had suggested & . Thanks

By: OPlease

OPlease — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:25:54 +0000

Why was my comment removed? There is NO DOUBT that shill bidding is fraud and illegal in the US. A company cannot falsely claim that bidders are bidding against each other when in fact they are bidding against the company’s employees or automations. A company cannot entice people to bid on their auctions with deals that others got when in fact those others are company employees or automations, and with company employees or automations being used to prevent items from actually selling cheaply. If and FBI agent actually did tell you that such fraud is not illegal he’s not much of an FBI agent. And you are not much of an investigator if you blithely accepted such a questionable opinion. You should have done a lot more research, rather than accepting a clearly mistaken opinion.

By: OPlease

OPlease — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:08:26 +0000

I find it very hard to believe that an FBI agent told you shill bidding was not a crime. It's fraud. How could it NOT be a crime to lure people to a site and have them pay their money based on the site claiming that they are bidding against other people just like them, and that they have a chance to win items at a really low price, if in fact they are bidding against employees or automations of the company that are designed to drain customers of money and PREVENT them from winning things at a low price? It's not a gray area, it's open and shut. Even IF, and it is a BIG BIG IF, an FBI agent told you that, you as a supposed investigative-type person and sentient individual should say 'That doesn't sound right' and do some more research.

By: NOYB

NOYB — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:37:36 +0000

I don't know what FBI agent you spoke to, but if he said shill bidding was not fraud he's wrong. FBI agents are people, and some of those people are dumb, some like John Connally are criminals currently in jail for aiding the second most Wanted Person in the world (Whitey Bulger, if you don't know). You should not be posting repeatedly, as you have been, that an FBI agent told you there was nothing illegal about shill bidding. While it may be true that an FBI agent said that, WHAT the FBI agent said is not true. I could say someone told me that the moon landing was faked, and that would be true – someone did tell me that. But WHAT that person told me is not true, and it would be irresponsible for me to keep repeating it.