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Zoozle using shill bidding bots in scam?
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That's equivalent to $5,053 for bid credit worth $100. Two persistent bidders (bots?) were sarge and redcobra1999. Is Zoozle using 'bots' to shill bid? Well, lets put it this way. I'm staying way far from this site.
- Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:52 PM
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200 Zoozle Bid Credits was auctioned off for $101.61 on 6:22 am 12/30/2009. http://www.zoozle.co...tions/view/3151
That's equivalent to $5,053 for bid credit worth $100. Two persistent bidders (bots?) were sarge and redcobra1999. Is Zoozle using 'bots' to shill bid? Well, lets put it this way. I'm staying way far from this site.
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We think those bidders are real actually, they are what we call "powerbidders," they bid until they win to establish a reputation for themselves, to say they are "untouchable." One of those bidders bids the same way on a number of other penny auction sites as well.
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- Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:17 PM
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Edited by ACE11, 30 December 2009 - 09:11 PM.
- Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:27 PM
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Unbelievable. Not just one but two powerbidders, so enthralled by prospect of 'untoutchable' reputation, they would bid over $10,000 for 200 bid credits obsorbing approx $5,000 real loss? If you're that gullible to believe that, I've some houses I'd like to sell you in Paradise Island in Dubai. Infact, if you had bid against sarge and/or redcobra1999 (long time resident bots?) in the past, you may have gotten royally sc&*&*d by b*&ts. LOL
"Large amounts of money" is a very, VERY relative term. Heck, "large" is relative all by it self. :smilielol5::Angel_anim:
The reason they do it is simple... Exactly how many bids are you willing to throw away against one of them in the near future? :lurk5:
- Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:24 PM
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Unbelievable. Not just one but two powerbidders, so enthralled by prospect of 'untoutchable' reputation, they would bid over $10,000 for 200 bid credits obsorbing approx $5,000 real loss? If you're that gullible to believe that, I've some houses I'd like to sell you in Paradise Island in Dubai. Infact, if you had bid against sarge and/or redcobra1999 (long time resident bots?) in the past, you may have gotten royally sc&*&*d by b*&ts. LOL
Like many powerbidders both of these guys have made $1,000's in profits, so the loss is is not relevent to most, and most of all others will think twice about bidding against them in the future. here is a secret though neither one of them will do that again I guarranty it.
- Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rockybiduser
I am least bother about normal small user using the big player name .I think the bigger issue will be using real more prominent user (e.g. btw,protoprotos,rwb63,monikab) etc as shill bidder in those fake penny auction site.I remember seeing at PAW forum that there is an admin screen where you can define your shill bidder.
Did Zoozle define sarge and redcobra1999 as shill bidder without sage and redcobra1999 knowing about it? It's possible Zoozle set max shill bid script at 101.61 instead of 11.61 and now there's a paper trail. btw, I emailed Zoozle support regards to this issue, and of course no response.
- Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:58 PM
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- Posted 30 December 2009 - 11:05 PM
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- Posted 09 January 2010 - 05:06 PM
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200 Zoozle Bid Credits was auctioned off for $101.61 on 6:22 am 12/30/2009. http://www.zoozle.co...tions/view/3151
That's equivalent to $5,053 for bid credit worth $100. Two persistent bidders (bots?) were sarge and redcobra1999. Is Zoozle using 'bots' to shill bid? Well, lets put it this way. I'm staying way far from this site.
I guessed I can answer you that question myself

OK...the reason I go againts that moron is because he is my # 1 enemy at Zoozle why?? is simply because he has 5 different accounts (2 got suspended) and always use them JUMP on me in the auction (several times) to force me use more bids :mad:
That's the end of the story..
p/s I hates jumpers....do you? :7:
- Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:34 AM
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Like many powerbidders both of these guys have made $1,000's in profits, so the loss is is not relevent to most, and most of all others will think twice about bidding against them in the future. here is a secret though neither one of them will do that again I guarranty it.
Well, we have been fighting each other for many times now & like I said this guy have 5 different accounts. I will definitely go off with him again if he jump on me in the auction. I don't call those jumpers as a PB, wait until the last minutes & try to hurt you more now that's what I call a dirty strategy!

- Posted 15 February 2010 - 05:10 PM
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Redcobra1999I guessed I can answer you that question myself
I 'm legit & that is the real money I 'm using :piggy:
OK...the reason I go againts that moron is because he is my # 1 enemy at Zoozle why?? is simply because he has 5 different accounts (2 got suspended) and always use them JUMP on me in the auction (several times) to force me use more bids :mad:
That's the end of the story..
p/s I hates jumpers....do you? :7:
This is a tricky question, as you know there is somewhat of unwritten code amongst a certain stature of bidders (I did not make it up and for the most part abide by it) that we give space and right of way once a PB has hit a retail plus level and I respect that. My wife Lightsout yesterday ended up going 2200 bids ($1500) on the PS3 at Rodeo talk about your jumpers. Over all there is a pretty good balance with just a few that really take advantage. Over all the tag sytem works well and I respect thier space as they do mine once an auction is tagged because noone wins (except the house) when we compete. (if that is considered a collusion statement I am sorry I was just making an observation). However jumping on an auction that no single bidder has taken control of is part of the game. Besides if a known powerbidder is in control what good does it do to try and steal it, even if you could you would also likely loose.
Out of curiosity what were his other user names?
- Posted 15 February 2010 - 08:24 PM
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Redcobra1999
This is a tricky question, as you know there is somewhat of unwritten code amongst a certain stature of bidders (I did not make it up and for the most part abide by it) that we give space and right of way once a PB has hit a retail plus level and I respect that. My wife Lightsout yesterday ended up going 2200 bids ($1500) on the PS3 at Rodeo talk about your jumpers. Over all there is a pretty good balance with just a few that really take advantage. Over all the tag sytem works well and I respect thier space as they do mine once an auction is tagged because noone wins (except the house) when we compete. (if that is considered a collusion statement I am sorry I was just making an observation). However jumping on an auction that no single bidder has taken control of is part of the game. Besides if a known powerbidder is in control what good does it do to try and steal it, even if you could you would also likely loose.
Out of curiosity what were his other user names?
Hey bid2win,
I know we have some collision before @ Zoozle & Rockybid. Before, me & some others PB using bids to communicate

As for your curiosity, his other accounts are maybemaybe + sarge + ricky + auditd + kk0810 sound familiar? I guess you know them all. How he got so many accounts? I don't know but I 100% sure they all using by a same guy or a tag team. 2 of them got caught & got suspended & I won't say which one.
By the way, did you stop bidding at Zoozle? If so, why?
I will talk to you guys/gals later....
p/s try2win also 1 of mine :biggriny:
- Posted 15 February 2010 - 09:41 PM
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Hey bid2win,
I know we have some collision before @ Zoozle & Rockybid. Before, me & some others PB using bids to communicatelike when I marked my items, they will usually stay away from that items & I will do the same to the others PB, this is how we respect each other. The 1oz gold bar that you won @ rockybid like 1 week ago...I can jump in there to hurt you if I wanted to but since we both kinda cool off a bit that's why I decided not to. I guess we are all in good shape now :Angel_anim:
As for your curiosity, his other accounts are maybemaybe + sarge + ricky + auditd + kk0810 sound familiar? I guess you know them all. How he got so many accounts? I don't know but I 100% sure they all using by a same guy or a tag team. 2 of them got caught & got suspended & I won't say which one.
By the way, did you stop bidding at Zoozle? If so, why?
I will talk to you guys/gals later....
p/s try2win also 1 of mine :biggriny:
This is why I stayed out of the Gold auction I actually had no intention of bidding on it then everyone dissapeared and only G*n* was left who has jumped me more than I can count, (he still lost every time) the timer went to Going a couple times and noone was around so I jumped him (payback time), I was waiting for Vibbu but he never reapeared.
I left zoozle due to software issues that impacted a couple of my auctions I record all auctions and had a couple intances where the bidbuddy did not fire when it was activated, craig would not refund the bids and I had it clearly on video, of course they were high profit auctions for zoozle they did not want to cancel them and loose their profit. I saw the writing on the wall with zoozle back in November and threatened legal action and they cashed me out and I left. I knew with the shipping issues getting longer and longer that it was a cashflow issue and it was only a matter of time.
Does Zoozle still owe you stuff?
- Posted 15 February 2010 - 10:52 PM
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This is why I stayed out of the Gold auction I actually had no intention of bidding on it then everyone dissapeared and only G*n* was left who has jumped me more than I can count, (he still lost every time) the timer went to Going a couple times and noone was around so I jumped him (payback time), I was waiting for Vibbu but he never reapeared.
I left zoozle due to software issues that impacted a couple of my auctions I record all auctions and had a couple intances where the bidbuddy did not fire when it was activated, craig would not refund the bids and I had it clearly on video, of course they were high profit auctions for zoozle they did not want to cancel them and loose their profit. I saw the writing on the wall with zoozle back in November and threatened legal action and they cashed me out and I left. I knew with the shipping issues getting longer and longer that it was a cashflow issue and it was only a matter of time.
Does Zoozle still owe you stuff?
Yes, infact they still owed me around $7,000 worth of merchandises. All I got last week were all the GC's & 5 other stuffs. They would not tell me when they are back in business though.
Hey...what do you think that bringiton1 & couples of other bidders that bid like a crazy crack headed @ rockybid? I think they got paid under the table just to bid with me & others PB. He got no intent to win most of the items but just to get all the PB to use more bids so @ the end who got most the benefit???... I have personally kicked his ass couple of times (but he kept coming back for more) to win the 100 free bids & $100 + 100 free bids for ridiculous amount of money that I used. I think he & 2 others work for rockybid but this is just my opinion since I got no prove. Just look at the way he bid this month & last month, he is one freaking crazy dude, If I was him....I will bid till someone drop flat but he's not.
@ zoozle he never bid againts me or couple of others PB....why is he acting that way @ Rockybid? That is my big concerned here.
- Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:40 PM
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