“613Bid,” one of our forum members, has just investigated penny auction site PennyBiddr.com and requested we post his findings here. It looks like he may be right about this one, thank you 613bid, we appreciate your diligence!!
We already know that the PHPPennyAuction.com penny auction script has bot bidders programmed in (more on this coming soon- this is NOT to say that all penny auctions using this script are using bots) and it looks like PennyBiddr.com is quite possibly using that script.
“I have done some in-depth research on pennybiddr.com and what I have found is very concerning. I was questioning the legitimacy of this site, and found some VERY suspicious activity on two auctions I tried to participate in on Friday night, I would like to share all of my detective work on pennybiddr.com:
I examined a sample of 90 closed auctions, the approximate retail value of the items sold on the site amounts to $21,500. These same 90 auctions had a total final auction price of $64.52. This amounts to 6452 bids placed. At an average cost of $0.76 per bid, this means the income for pennybiddr.com was $4903. This yields a net loss of over $16,000 for pennybiddr.com
There are now well over 400 closed auctions on pennybiddr.com. It has been in operation since November 2009. Yet there is not 1 single testimonial on the website. Some “users” have won 52” LCD tvs for pennies, yet no one has given them a testimonial.
After doing a reverse lookup on www.whitepages.com for this address online, I discovered that there are 3 people registered at this address, with the following phone number 1-253-874-1073. Kulbir Singh, Romme P Singh, and Sukhjinder Singh. Since these 3 people have the last name, and live at the same address, it can be assumed that these 3 people are related. I actually called the number and spoke to Romme Singh. He told me he was the brother of Kanwal Singh, the owner of the website. I asked Romme if Kanwal lived in the same house, and he replied – NO.
Below is a screencap from the terms and conditions page on pennybiddr.com
After doing a search of Romme’s Facebook friends, I discovered Laly Singh. It is unclear if Laly Singh is related to Kanwal Singh.
Laly is also a fan of PennyBiddr:
After viewing the Facebook Wall of Laly Singh, I discovered that on November 25th 2009 at 11:59pm Laly posted the following on Facebook: (Please note this has since been removed from both Laly Singh’s Facebook feed, AND the review tab on the pennybiddr.com facebook fan page.) I believe Kanwal is trying to cover his tracks.
After searching through all of the closed auction on pennybiddr.com there was only 1 auction for Call of Duty that ended at $0.22. The winner of that auction was user skfmips, and the last bid was placed on Nov 16th 2009 at 23:57:20. See next screenshot.
Now, looking at the screenshot below shows that there is another user, who is currently bidding on the Haiti Red Cross Auction. The user name is lalysingh.
It is apparent that Laly Singh has 2 accounts on pennybiddr.com. One is skfmips according to his facebook post. And the other is clearly his name lalysingh.
This is a clear violation of the terms and conditions in the next screenshot.
Additionally if you view this screenshot of Google’s Cache, you can see that on Alexa, there is one rating for pennybiddr.com. The username who wrote the review … none other than Laly Singh:
Now someone has gone in and edited this review on Alexa, and changed the username from Laly Singh to Facebook User in the screenshot below. I believe this to be more evidence of Kanwal Singh trying to cover his tracks for unethical penny auction business practices:
This is all the research I have done. PAW please post on your main page.”
Also, it looks like PennyBiddr.com may be using the usernames of bidders from other sites for their bots:
Thanks to “613Bid” for providing us with this information.