Any ads for penny auctions by Google do not signify endorsement, legitimacy, that you will win or anything else. Bid at your own risk.
 

Reverse Auction

Share on TwitterShare on TumblrSubmit to StumbleUponDigg ThisSubmit to redditShare via email

question markToday, Norwegian entrepreneur Tore Rasmussen, who will soon, with his partner Vegard Kjelseth open an entertainment shopping site, wrote an article on The Evolution of Online Auctions which comments on James Surowiecki’s “Going, Going, Gone: Who Killed the Internet Auction?” Wired.com article.

Tore mentioned that James forgot to include penny auction sites and other revolutionary forms of entertainment shopping in his post though mentioned flash sales sites such as Gilt.com and daily deal giants like Groupon and LivingSocial, but he didn’t mention penny auctions.

In James’ article, he says, “…Today online auctions are a niche service, whereas a decade ago it seemed to many as if they were going to transform the way everything was bought and sold.” He also reported on how Pattie Maes of MIT’s Media Lab “prophesied the disappearance of fixed prices,” as did Jay Walker of Priceline.com—”which pioneered the use of reverse auctions for consumers—insisted that price tags on things like books were going to become a thing of the past.”

Not to go into how the value of the USD is greatly deflating, we’re at a time where consumers are not just looking for lower prices,  they’re expecting them.

Tore asked a very good question, and we’re also wondering what our readers think, “Do you think that the entertainment shopping industry has the potential to reinitiate the online auction? and Also, “What will the key elements be for its success?”

First of all, penny auctions are a totally different breed of an online auction.

 

eBay is like a giant flea market, anyone can sell whatever they want, from their ex-boyfriend’s used t-shirt to a piece of toast claimed to have the face of a spiritual image, to almost anything you could really imagine. In the realm of penny auctions, do people really want to bid on toast or used products? Penny auctions provide new products, usually electronics, household items and designer handbags.

Penny auctions charge users to bid, eBay does not.

Penny auctions really aren’t online auctions or even auctions, at least not in the traditional sense. Many claim that penny auctions are a form of gambling, well, there are winners but even more losers. Money is risked with a hope of winning something of value.

Entertainment shopping, reveal type sites (i.e. ToVieFor, SneakPeeq, StuffBuff) and penny auctions such as BigDeal.com, FashionBay, BidSwap, BidCactus, QuiBids, DealDash, SkoreIt, Beezid and the dozens of others that we mention and discuss here on Penny Auction Watch®, are a section of the Internet that have gained some attention and recognition, but not very much.

What drew me to penny auctions as well as flash sale sites like Gilt over 2 years ago was the fact that they are so innovative and exciting, they both provide consumers with a fun way to shop and save money. The real drawback though with penny auctions is the fact that penny auctions haven’t been able to give all shoppers a guaranteed deal. Bids are really just a chance to win a product, not a sure guarantee that they will win. This leaves 1 winner and many losers.

These frustrated losers are then very quick to cry foul and label all penny auctions a scam.scams

However, as you’ve read about here, many penny auction sites are just that. It’s true that many penny auctions are indeed running with their fleets of fake usernames bidding up items and bidding against eachother as well as manually shill bidding. The real problem with these sites are that they give the consumer the impression that the bidders are all real and they think, “Wow, they’re getting a great deal maybe I can too!” So what do they do? They sign up, drop maybe $20, maybe even $300+ on bids thinking the clock keeps dropping ’til 1 second, perhaps just one more bid, they’ll win. The only party to win on these sites (the true scams) are the thieving operators.


Not All Penny Auctions Are Scams

I believe that there are legitimate sites, penny auctions without bots and insider bidders, but it’s hard to get the general public to see and also understand that especially after some of the bad press and rightly so, that has been given to shady sites and the fact that consumers just don’t understand it. Many believe they have a chance of winning an iPad for $2 and if they don’t, they’ll cry foul even if they really were bidding against real people.

Everyone knows about eBay. eBay came about in a different time, a time when the Internet was really just beginning. Not everyone, not many really, know about penny auctions.

Media, not to mention the fact that the product really pioneered online shopping, helped make eBay even that more mainstream. You don’t see actors bidding on penny auctions in movies, though recently Lindsay Lohan did talk about Beezid (commercial) while under house arrest.

Last summer I visited the offices of both BigDeal and Swoopo and I agree with Tore,  Bigdeal has a great model with buy it now, and though they have received a ton of money in venture funding,  they really seem to be dwindling now and, their variety of items very limited. They stopped offering handbag and jewelry items, even high ticket electronics and Apple products have been out of their line-up for a few weeks now.

Swoopo and Oohilove, acquired by Swoopo’s Entertainment Shopping, Inc., as you know are now gone and have as I reported, filed bankruptcy, though we’re still not sure why or what happened. Swoopo pioneered the entertainment shopping, penny auction model.

OohiLove, though not the first penny auction to offer designer fashion oriented items gained much fanfare from outlets such as CosmoGirl and The Huffington Post, many fashion forward bloggers and purse lovers loved the site. OohiLove offered buy-it-now.

wind farm sustainability

Are penny auctions sustainable?

 

We know that many penny auction bidders who were frequent bidders a year ago, even 6 months ago, have given up bidding altogether and don’t plan on coming back. Why? They’ve lost too much money, too much time, and got too wrapped up in it.

Perhaps if the bigger names in  online shopping took part, or if the sites with the funding would keep going and find new ways to make the model fun for everyone, it could. As of yet, the only sites that seem to be really gaining momentum, perhaps due to marketing campaigns (we think so) is QuiBids, SkoreIt and Beezid.

The Fun Factor

Is eBay just not fun anymore and penny auctions are? Are penny auctions really fun?

Online auctions are definitely a niche industry, penny auctions an even smaller one, and they’ll probably stay that way unless things change.

Different, innovative e-commerce platforms have arrived.

Amazon.com has come to be the household name that eBay once is, though still is. Not to be cliché, in the ever rapid age of information technology, of instant satisfaction, consumers want to be able to receive their purchases right away and at the lowest possible prices, and penny auctions, well, they’re just not delivering that.

Not only is it hard to find a penny auction to offer more than one method of shipping, it’s hard to find many to even ship items out right away after receiving payment.

One concerned bidder recently wrote in to tell us that a penny auction site they’ve been bidding on told them they will expect to receive their items in about 6 weeks. This concerns bidders because PayPal only allows disputes to be initiated up to 45 days after the date of purchase.

The Losing Factor

Why won’t the bidders that were once fanatical about penny auctions be back?

They’ve lost too much money, too much time and just don’t find penny auctions to be fun anymore. They’re right.

The PowerBidder Factor

The current penny auction model allows for bidders who, after winning a few items at great bargains, become so enamored with penny auctions that they will make it a point to win more and more items at below retail, even if they’ve already won 10 new iPads, laptops, gift cards, or anything else.

The PowerBidder’s Strategy, in short:

1. One username across all sites

2.  Bids at all costs on every item they bid on and

3. Persistence, they’ll bid again and again even after they’ve lost a few.

Powerbidders are also resellers, using eBay to sell their items, they do end up making more of a profit than the very sites that they’ve won the items on. Their strategy allows them to obtain great deals at the expense of the sustenance of the penny auction site. These bidders then wonder why they haven’t received their items – they still should, but the model is destined for failure.

Soaring Eagle

Elements for Success

Just a few -Help us Add to This List?:

  • Excellent customer service – the problem here, too, is with tech “glitches” the customer “isn’t always right”
  • Quick & low cost shipping
  • Buy it Now – 100% of the listed price, (this shouldn’t really be the MSRP). There are ways that these prices can be comparable and satisfactory, and the site can still make a profit.
  • Education & Transparency- Penny auctions and other entertainment shopping platforms need to clearly explain to customers who they are and what they’re all about.
  • Advertising – Accurately and tactfully: Money is needed. Social Media is very important.
  • VITAL: It has to be fun for everyone, not just a few.

What do you think, does the “Entertainment Shopping industry have the potential to reinitiate the online auction? And what will be the key elements for its success?” Let’s discuss!

 

Photo Credits: Question mark- milos milosevic, Hook, line & sinker: ToastyKen, Dollar $: mag3737,  Coaster: Thomas Hawk, Sustainability?: kevindooley,


{ 1 comment }

BidRivals Letting Bidders Be Sellers

bidrivals penny auction January 3, 2011

Malta based penny auction site BidRivals.com has just announced “SuperBidRivals,” a new merchant program that will allow BidRivals’ users to sell products, all they have to do is pay BidRivals the purchase price of any item and BidRivals will list it for sale. From Keith at BidRivals: “This is called SuperBidRivals, the principle is simple, [...]

Read the full article→

Penny Auction Gives Back to Wounded Troops & Their Families!

Penny Warriors October 22, 2010

We recently had the pleasure of interviewing decorated Green Beret, Staff Sergeant, Matt Summers. Sgt. Summers received a purple heart after sustaining minor wounds in an IED blast in Afghanistan. After electing to be honorably discharged, he went back to school and obtained his master’s degree. On September 14th, of this year, combining his knowledge and military [...]

Read the full article→

Penny Auction Site Closes After 4 Days in Operation

PennySlam Shuts Down October 21, 2010

[pullquote]We would rather cut our losses now then deal with the headache that Penny Auctions website bring to the business owners and the many that will never win an auction[/pullquote]PennySlam.com, a penny auction site that opened on October 15th just closed on the 19th, they were in business a total of 4 days before they [...]

Read the full article→

Why Do Penny Auction Sites Close?

penny auctions out of business October 13, 2010

When looking back over the last year and a half there sure have been a lot of penny auctions site that have come and gone, the Penny Auction Watch℠ Out-of-Business Penny Auction site list hasn’t been updated in awhile, but at least another dozen sites can be added to the list of the sites that [...]

Read the full article→

SitnBid.com a New Seat Penny Auction

sitnbid penny auction August 17, 2010

We recently interviewed the founder of the new seat auction site SitnBid.com to learn more about their ‘tournament style’ penny auction and what got them started. What do you think about seat auctions, have you tried SitnBid? Discuss this in our penny auction forum! Penny Auction Watch: What got you interested in the entertainment shopping [...]

Read the full article→

Penny Auction Scripts for Sale with Shill Bots

February 16, 2010

There are currently two penny auction sites for sale on the website marketplace Flippa.com that have autobidding shill bidders, the first is blatantly promoting the use of autobidding bots as a surefire way to make an easy profit. 1. BidStation.net The seller of BidStation.net seems to be quite proud of the fact that the site [...]

Read the full article→

Penny Auction Watch Forum News

February 15, 2010

The Penny Auction Watch forum has just been reorganized to help penny auction bidders & owners, yes that’s right, due to popular demand we allow site owners to post in the forum and communicate with bidders in a dedicated section. We hope that this will help you find what you’re looking for, check it out! [...]

Read the full article→

PAW Member Wins Vespa on Winnit for Under $30!

February 1, 2010

We want to congratulate our forum member Rob200890, he just won a Vespa LX 50cc on the lowest-unique bid, reverse auction Winnit.com. The Vespa LX has a retail price of $3,299.00 and his winning lowest-unique bid was $0.42, he placed his bid 24 hours before the bidding ended and only placed around 20 bids! Credits [...]

Read the full article→

BidsPlay.com Interview

January 28, 2010

Penny auction Bidsplay.com is now under new management and will be opening on February 1st. Penny Auction Watch: What got you interested in the entertainment shopping industry? At first, it was because of the opportunity  to get items at huge discount prices, when I was a purchaser on penny auction sites. Penny Auction Watch: How [...]

Read the full article→

HaloBids Now Has Regular Reverse Penny Auctions

January 27, 2010

Seat auction penny auction site HaloBids.com has just introduced regular reverse penny auctions. There are no seats required to bid, only bid purchases. Bids start at $0.17 when purchased in a bundles of 150-300 and drop down to $0.09 when purchasing 800, $0.08 when purchasing 1500-5000 bids. 2% of all bids placed per auction will [...]

Read the full article→

Pennybiddr.com Alleged Shill Bidders

January 18, 2010

“613Bid,” one of our forum members, has just investigated penny auction site PennyBiddr.com and requested we post his findings here. It looks like he may be right about this one, thank you 613bid, we appreciate your diligence!! We already know that the PHPPennyAuction.com penny auction script has bot bidders programmed in (more on this coming [...]

Read the full article→

Oohilove.com Marries Designer Luxury Fashion with Entertainment Shopping

January 15, 2010

High-end designer fashion penny auction site oohilove.com offers handbags and accessories including Louis Vuitton, Tiffany, Gucci, Chanel, Marc Jacobs, Tory Burch and more.  Penny Auction Watch members have received items from oohilove. oohilove is offering all Penny Auction Watch readers a 5% discount on the purchase of their first bidpack on  oohilove.com.  Please use the discount code: OOHILOVEPAW [...]

Read the full article→

Updates and Promos At Wavee

January 8, 2010

Risk-free* penny auction Wavee.com has a new features and promotions that you may be interested in: 1.       Win Limits Eliminated – Wavee has removed the 28 day auction limit restriction. Wavee members are able to participate in any auction, regardless of how many auctions they have won in the past. 2.       SMS Verification – All new Wavee users must input a cell [...]

Read the full article→

PennyPlex Introduction Q&A

December 3, 2009

New Penny Auction Site Introduction: PennyPlex Penny Auction Watch: What got you interested in the entertainment shopping industry? PennyPlex: I have been an online entrepreneur and online shopper for many years.  I enjoyed participating in online auctions and decided that I had something to offer. I joined with a great team of people and Pennyplex.com [...]

Read the full article→

Interview with Penny Auction LincolnBidz

November 30, 2009

Recently opened penny auction LincolnBidz.com has fixed their auction errors and is now re-opening tonight at 6PM (CST). Read our interview with LincolnBidz, Inc. (Yes, they really are really incorporated!): Penny Auction Watch: What got you interested in the entertainment shopping industry? We got into this by chance.  I was searching for online home auctions [...]

Read the full article→

JungleCent’s Cyber Monday Special

November 30, 2009

Seat auction JungleCents is running a Cyber Monday Special! Register for Jungle Cents 1. Click http://www.junglecents.com/packages to purchase credits. 2. Enter CYBERMONDAY120209 in the coupon code field and hit “Apply Coupon”. 3. And proceed to checkout using Paypal. 4. Enjoy your free credits! *Remember this offer expires at Midnight PST on December, 2nd 2009 **We will [...]

Read the full article→

BidSauce Penny Auction

November 29, 2009

Penny auction BidSauce.com just opened on Thanksgiving (November 25th, 2009). Bids on BidSauce are sold as BidBoxes in increments of 25, 50, 100, 250 and 500. 25 Bids for $25 – $1.00 per 50 Bids for $45 – $0.95 per 100 Bids for $85 – $0.85 per 250 Bids for $200 – $0.80 per 500 [...]

Read the full article→

BidYell

November 25, 2009

United Kingdom based BidYell.com is open to customers in the UK as well as the US.  One thing that you must keep in mind, is the cost of bids are in GBP (United Kingdom Pounds). Due to the devaluation of the US Dollar, bids on BidYell have increased in price for US customers, and currently [...]

Read the full article→

PennyJersey Needs Beta Testers

November 15, 2009

Attention Sports Fans! New niche penny auction PennyJersey.com, a sports memorabilia & equipment bid-fee auction, is launching soon and they need 50 beta testers. Ok Folks, we have been waiting a long time  for this and BETA testing is finally here for PennyJersey.com. The excitement is contagious and just wait till you hear what we [...]

Read the full article→